Under the promise of "great expectations," Pip meets Miss Havisham. Pip tells the reader, "That was a memorable day for me, for it made great changes in me."
His meeting with Miss Havisham and Estella is like a portal between two worlds for Pip. What changes does Pip undergo? Consider his feelings and reactions, his various relationships, etc.
Pip goes to Miss Havisham's very often throughout the book and in my opinion, it's like a different social life for him. In this house there were several rooms and eloquent people who made Pip feel needed and important. After all this time being so inferior to Mrs. Joe, he is finally in a place where he has purpose. Also, he is in a place where he feels love (for Estelle).
ReplyDeleteThroughout the novel Pip visits Miss. Havisham’s and Estella’s home many times. While at the their house, Pip is able to experience a whole different type of living compared to what he has at home with Joe and Mrs. Joe. Miss. Havisham’s house is described to be quite extravagant by saying that there is a gate at the entrance of the mansion and a courtyard/ garden in the back of the house. From spending so much time at the mansion, it has caused Pip to want to become more like them. From visiting the mansion it has allowed him to have changes in his relationships, like with Joe. Before, Pip always wanted to be Joe’s apprentice, but now he has secretly begun to reconsider it. This shows how Pip has adjusted to the educated and wealthy lifestyle that Miss. Havisham lives.
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At various points in the novel Pip makes a visit to Miss Havisham's house which happens to be the home to where Estella lives. Estella is described to be a beutiful young woman known for crushing peoples hearts. Seeing her personality, Pip seems to fall in love for this girl unknowing what Miss Havishman has planned but, making his own ideas for what that may be. Thus, love is one of the changes that undergo at Miss Havisham's house along with his desire to acquire gentlemen status. Based on the "extravagant" house Pip desires to be like Estella and Miss Havisham. Overwhelmed of being in a place where he has purpose his main desires get reconsidered like being Joe's apprentice.
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Pip undergoes several changes as he gets adjusted from his rather poor lifestyle, into Miss Havisham's rich life. While visiting Miss Havisham's house, he was acquainted with a beautiful young lady named Estella which he admired very much, but she wasn't so nice. Miss Havisham and Estella alike would often say mean comments addressed toward Pip right in front of his face like, ''Break his heart." Although it's clear that Pip wasn't treated with much respect, he began to take on his responsibilities seriously, like walking Miss Havisham around in the courtyard. Furthermore, after some time, the visits to Miss Havisham's had a profound affect on him, and the way he acted towards Joe. While Pip did admired Joe as a person and his profession, he began to find that in life, he'd much rather be a well educated and well-behaved gentlemen than a blacksmith instead.
ReplyDeletePip undergo's a change in perspective about where he stands socially. Before he visited Miss Havisham's he believed that his common life was perfectly fine, but after the way Estella treated him with such contept, like she was better than him, he thougt inside that he wanted to be a educated gentleman and not be a common boy. Now that he got a taste for socially higher standards, he wants that in his everyday life. Also, beofore Havisham Pip admired Joe, but now he wants to almost be better than what Joe is, which is just a common blacksmith.
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The line shows the first time Pip saw himself as anything other than the son of a blacksmith, and started to think he could be something greater. The changes in Pip caused by being rejected in chapter 13 aren't because he missed the meetings, (Other than Estella)he says throughout that he hates them, that he has to work, Estella's attitude. Ms.Havisham being a Disney movie villain, etc. So it's pretty clear he missed the feeling of possibly being someone special. When it's all suddenly taken away, he feels like he lost his chance, and so being a blacksmith has no appeal to him.
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Oh, and in the study questions, who were the "Pockets" mentioned in Chap11? The noble visitors?
Oliver, the pockets are the people that Miss Havisham seems to not like very much. They visit her on her birthday, but she doesn't seem to like them very much.
ReplyDeleteWhen Pip met Miss Havisham and Estella, especially Estella, his state of mind about everything changed. He became insecure and ashamed of his upbringing. Estella's various comments she made about how Pip was nothing but a commoner, what coarse hands he has and what think boots he own, greatly lower his self-esteem. Pip suddenly did not want to be Joe's apprentice anymore, and he wanted desperately to become uncommon and learn. He is embarrassed of his house which he used to think was great because Joe was able to convince him of that. After his meetings at Miss Havisham's house, he second guesses everything that he has grown up loving and now is disgusted by it, and wants to move up in society.
Before Pip met Miss Havisham and Estella, he was perfectly fine with the way he was raised and his life. But after the way Estella treated him: calling him "boy" and making fun of the way he looked and talked, Pip became very self conscious and ashamed of himself. He began to wonder why he could not have been raised the way Estella was and becomes ashamed of Joe and the rest of his family too. When Pip starts crying and kicking the wall, he shows how sensitive his sister's punishments and the way she raised him had made him and blames that for what he thinks is wrong with him and his life. After meeting with Miss Havisham after a few days Pip decides that he wants to better himself and move up in society to become a gentleman. Pip says "That was a great day for me, for it made great changes in me" because that was the day that he realized he wasn't satisfied with his life and education, and began to work harder to become more wise.
ReplyDeleteIn Pips arrival to Miss Havishams house, Pip experiences in his mind, a life changing experience. On the first day Pip meets Estella, a beautiful girl she insults him with the fact that he is common this makes him angry and upset. With that, Pip develops a desire to change this about himself by visiting Biddy in hope that it will make him more uncommon, This is how the experience has changed him. Upon his various visits he experiences something different almost every time , for example, a fight with a young boy and a kiss from estella all being stuff he's never really done before making his time spent there unforgettable, also making it hard to leave. - Monica P.
ReplyDeletePip visits Miss Havishman quite often. Every time that he does go to visit her and Estella, it's like he steps in to another life. The first few visits Estella make Pip feel inferior by making remarks calling him common, and pointing out flaws. Although she does this, he develops feelings for her, and has a sudden desire to become uncommon and more like a gentlemen just for Estella. While at the Miss havishmans house he feels important, as if he's needed in this extravagant lifestyle. The changes he under goes are those that make him want to be a higher being. He becomes miserable in his current life and desires this other life that he gets a taste of while at Miss Havishmans house.
ReplyDeleteDuring these chapters Pip visits Miss Havisham many times. While visiting he experiences "two worlds." He is exposed to a different social class than he is used to. In the beginning of his visits, Estella calls him a common labor boy and looks down on him. This causes Pip to want to make something out of himself and become uncommon. He tries his best to learn as much as he can from Biddy in his free time. By chapter 14 he no longer works for Miss Havisham and he becomes Joe's apprentice. While working as Joe's apprentice he is ashamed of who he is, and he longs to be uncommon.
ReplyDeleteI had many questions about Miss Havisham like why her clocks are all set 20 minutes to 9, and why she is always in the same white dress everyday? Also why does she encourage Estella to break people's hearts?
Pip becomes different based on his interactions with Miss Havisham and the beautiful and haughty Estella. Stemming from the influx of insults from Estella, Pip heightens his standards for himself as well as those around him, even though no one he knows can hope to match his new standards. Pip's ambition and want for social advancement almost wholly take over his life, preventing Pip from sympathizing with anyone he knows, though he felt sympathy for the escaped convict earlier in the story. Even Joe, the 'deepest' individual Pip has the good fortune to know, mortifies Pip with his rough manners and poor clothes. Pip's standards for himself are the most extravagant of all. Once perfectly satisfied with himself, he believes he is everything Estella makes him out to be; coarse, common and all. He wishes to be a gentleman, so that with his advanced social status (advanced for his current self, or so he thinks) he might appeal to Estella. Pip's visits begin to bleed into everyday life, Pip seeing everything as having qualities similar to Estella or Miss Havisham.
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